No, There is no possibility to get the V14 level. All your purchases are dead. No upgrade possibility.
An sooner (one by one) your “older” plugins will not be compatible with major DAWs (if you plan to make the regular updates to your DAW).
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I find Waves pump and dump campaign in the last few weeks to be absolutely pathetic.
And your fake-happy ‘just to be clear folks, we won’t be coming round to smash up your computers’ adds insult to injury.
Read the room man, it’s your job, right?
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That’s not true, especially since we can’t update our licenses to work on current systems. Crazy.
The reason people didn’t pay WUP is because Waves never updates plugins. Look at FabFilter. They actually update their plugins a a meaningful way and people are happy to pay for an upgrade. You change a number and ask for money.
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In the last 9 days I’ve upgraded to the SSL collection, upgraded from Horizon to Mercury and paid full WUP on Abbey Road and some other non-bundle plugins. All that money is now wasted because I won’t get any upgrade beyond v14 and no added plugins to Mercury. But I can pay ANOTHER $250 and get the benefits that I thought I already paid for just days ago.
There are number of things Waves could have done:
Provide free subscription for the duration of any remaining WUP (regardless of plugins).
Honor any additional plugins for the duration of remaining WUP and then allow them to be purchased at the end of the WUP period.
Continue offering the previous business model for existing customers and the subscription model for new customers.
I really don’t know how Waves employees can sleep at night.
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Ok, let’s suppose I only really want to continue using one of the 2 handful of Waves plugins I have installed (which is the case, namely the CR8). For now it’s working, but once I get a new silicon Mac, I will defenitely have to update it at one point in time.
So, what’s my options here? Right, there’s only one option, namely subscribing and paying 15 bucks a month. For ONE SINGLE plugin.
And no, please don’t even try to start telling me I could then as well use all the other wonderful plugins included in that subscription. Because they’re not what I need or want (and it absolutely doesn’t matter that I might use them in case I had access).
You can see that for anyone in a remotely similar situation, Waves’ new model is completely stupid. There’s just NO WAY I’d pay 15 bucks a month for a single plugin. Because nobody would.
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This is disingenuous at best.
People don’t buy (license) software to work in their current configuration only.
Almost no one working in Pro Audio (or as a hobby) gets a piece of software and then keeps their computer at a fixed configuration forever.
People expect updates for their product so it can continue to work.
Conflating ‘new features’ with ‘need the update to continue working in a modern OS’ is where Waves are going wrong here.
They are different things.
I don’t want new features for RBass, or L2 or the other plugins I have relied on for a couple of decades.
I just want them to work under whatever OS is currently supported by the latest version of Pro Tools.
To do this I had to pay (almost) yearly WUP.
Fine.
I have many, many thousands of pounds invested in Waves plugins and since the early 00’s.
I’ve paid WUP regularly.
I put up with the end of TDM support.
I put up with WUP.
I will not put up with this.
There are other options now.
I’ll be using McDSP ML8000 instead of L2.
I already use Fabfilter instead of Q10.
Luckily I paid WUP last week so I have a year to find alternatives.
Which is exactly what I will be doing.
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My OVox is v12 and ist not working on my Apple Silicon Mac. All my other Plugins are V14.
What am I supposed to do to be able to use Ovox on my brandnew M2 Mac? Subscribe and pay every month for this one Plugin I already bought?
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exactly this, because there’s no way anymore to get your Ovox license to V14 
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This makes me pretty sad 
How do people feel who have lost even more of their beloved tools?
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This is a garbage move. The Waves Upgrade Plan wasn’t great but I could stomach it. There is nothing that is going to convince me to pay for 200 plug-ins I don’t want just to use the 5 I love. Make a custom bundle option, and bring back the ability to upgrade previously owned perpetual licenses or you won’t see another penny from me.
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Twenty years ago I bought the Renaissance Collection Native at a musicstore (I still got the box). I learned to mix in the box with those plugins. After that I bought many Waves plugins and WUP. Now I almost own all of their plugins.
But this move by Waves will be the end of my support of Waves.
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So I have to pay 250 a year for a subscription to use an updated version of a 10 dollar plugin I bought a few months ago? COSMOS has the same problems it’s had since DAY 1 and you are charging for that POS now? Screw all of y’all. You’ll never get another dollar out of me. Have fun losing your entire customer base 
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Same situation here - bought CR8 on sale and I really like it, but waves has me ■■■■■■ up if they think I’m gonna pay 15 a month to use my 10 dollar plugin…
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Your posts are damned insulting. Everybody here understands exactly what Waves has done. Your condescending attitude is only making a terrible situation worse.
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Never mind. Just bought a replacement plugin instead, so don’t really care now.
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I count as of now 153/153 posts saying this is unconscionable. Are you, in fact, listening?
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I can’t say how very dissapointed I am with this news and the way Waves is treating us. Shame on you Waves!
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ALL of you guys sign this petition. Goodbye Waves!!! Unfortunatelly I cannot paste the link so you can find it on “Change dot org” when you type in #Wavesgoodbye
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If you look on other plugin forums that consensus is that there has never been a more disrespectful manner of rollout than this WAVES nonsense - in the history of audio plugins. Just wait for the opinion articles in the audio magazines. “Contact inside sales” if you feel you’ve been wronged lol. So basically put it on the customer to make things right with the company - not on the company to make things right with the customer. I feel bad for the employees at Waves who know at the core how wrong this is - it’s probably most of them and they are likely afraid to be the one to speak up and speak out. It doesn’t take a rocket scientist to see how wrong this rollout is - most of the Waves employees probably know and are just afraid to be the messenger to up above. Terrible shame - and such a limited time to correct this misstep if they do at all.
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Lame decision Waves… No respect for your customers whatsoever, you could at least give us the opportunity to WUP …
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