# Where is all the SG hardware?
**URL:** https://forum.waves.com/t/where-is-all-the-sg-hardware/5956
**Category:** SoundGrid Platforms and Technology
**Created:** [September 27, 2022, 12:53am UTC](https://forum.waves.com/t/where-is-all-the-sg-hardware/5956 "2022-09-27T00:53:04Z")
**Posts on this page:** 3
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### Author:  [@Synetos](https://forum.waves.com/u/Synetos)
#### Post date: [September 27, 2022, 12:53am UTC](https://forum.waves.com/t/where-is-all-the-sg-hardware/5956/1 "2022-09-27T00:53:04Z")
I am blown away that everything is pre-order and keeps getting pushed out further. Even most music outlets dont have Waves SG products either…not to mention the doubling in price!!! It seems I could sell my SGS Extreme server and my IOX units for way more than I paid for them.
How can waves keep the product line alive if there isnt any product?
What is really going on?
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### Author:  [@ehabmxd](https://forum.waves.com/u/ehabmxd)
#### Post date: [September 28, 2022, 5:23am UTC](https://forum.waves.com/t/where-is-all-the-sg-hardware/5956/2 "2022-09-28T05:23:20Z")
Actually, I find that all things are very expensive now, and there has been no upgrade on them for a long time
this is a big problem
I would like to add IOC, but I found its price too high compared to the time I bought IOX. It seems that I will not buy at these prices and I can sell all my Waves products and invest in another company Like RME that is at the same prices and is available everywhere
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### Author:  [@Synetos](https://forum.waves.com/u/Synetos)
#### Post date: [September 28, 2022, 7:15pm UTC](https://forum.waves.com/t/where-is-all-the-sg-hardware/5956/3 "2022-09-28T19:15:02Z")
I considered flipping to other gear makers too, but it is equally overpriced and still hard to find.
Frankly, Waves doubling the price on an existing product with no upgrade puts a bad taste in my mouth. Not paying it when it’s the same. But, there aren’t any to buy, so I guess it’s not a problem. 😉