# Vocal Rider \_ Pro Tools 12 \_ PC
**URL:** https://forum.waves.com/t/vocal-rider-pro-tools-12-pc/1688
**Category:** Uncategorized
**Created:** [July 16, 2020, 9:02am UTC](https://forum.waves.com/t/vocal-rider-pro-tools-12-pc/1688 "2020-07-16T09:02:13Z")
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### Author:  [@Tonza72](https://forum.waves.com/u/Tonza72)
#### Post date: [July 16, 2020, 9:02am UTC](https://forum.waves.com/t/vocal-rider-pro-tools-12-pc/1688/1 "2020-07-16T09:02:13Z")
Trying to use Vocal Rider (v11) - plugin in Pro Tools 12 .
I’ve set the Rider - parameter as automation and the “Track - Lane”
is displaying the Rider - envelope .
The track is in Write - mode, as well as the plugin is in Write - mode also .
Somehow I see no changes happening in the envelope, though I see Rider fader moving in the plugin - GUI .
I know this all may sound stupid,
but could someone please show some guidance on this one .
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### Author:  [@OmryWaves](https://forum.waves.com/u/OmryWaves)
#### Post date: [July 16, 2020, 3:45pm UTC](https://forum.waves.com/t/vocal-rider-pro-tools-12-pc/1688/2 "2020-07-16T15:45:26Z")
Hi @Tonza72,
Note that V11 plug-ins are [**Officially Supported**](https://www.waves.com/support/tech-specs/supported-hosts#version-11) with Pro Tools 2018 and above.
So this might be related.
That said, to write the Fader automation we need to have:
1. The **Fader** in Pro Tools **Plug-in Automation list**.
2. Vocal Rider in **Write mode**.
3. Track/channel also in **Write** , **Latch** or **Touch** modes
Do double-check that, but it sounds like you got it right 🙂
In that case, in Pro Tools go to **Window \> Automation** :
In the small window that pops up, make sure you got **PLUG IN** selected in Red.
That should do it.
If not, you can ask our friendly Support Team to advise further over [**this link**](https://www.waves.com/contact-support).